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- Millhouse - 02.11.2010

Ja aber die konsolen kann man doch wieder zurücksetzen so dass die profiele nicht mehr beschädigt werden.

- xXScaleoXx - 02.11.2010

Jurek,index.php?page=Thread&postID=175324#post175324' schrieb:Ich habs :-)

Schön für dich.

NOCHMAL FÜR ALLE:

HIER GEHÖREN NUR NEWS REIN! OB IHR DAS UPDATE HABT ETC. INTERESSIERT HIER NIEMANDEN!

NUTZT FÜR FRAGEN ETC. DIE JEWEILIGEN THREADS IM FORUM!

- Pooly - 02.11.2010

Indie-Entwickler nicht begeistert vom neuen Dashboard-Update!

Kaum ist das neue Dash-Update erschienen, scheinen insbesondere die Entwickler von Indie-Spielen nicht sonderlich begeistert davon zu sein. Grund sind die Verschiebungen der "Indie Games" aus dem Spiele-Marktplatz, welche nämlich nun in einen eigenen Bereich mit dem Avatar-Marktplatz und dem Game Room zu finden sind.

So sagt zum Beispiel Deej, der Entwickler von Clover: A Curious Tale dazu: "Ich würde gerne die Gründe dafür wissen - zumindest könnte die Community sich dann konstruktive Alternativen ausdenken anstatt weiter im Unklaren gelassen zu werden."

Ähnlich äußert sich auch Mommy's Best Games, das Entwicklerteam von Weapon of Choice: "Ich bin hier, um zu betrauern, dass die Indie Games als 'Games' bezeichnen werden, da wir sie nun vermutlich in Indie Specialties umbenennen müssen."

Projector Games geht sogar noch einen Schritt weiter und meint, dass es sogar direkte Auswirkungen auf die Verkaufszahlen hat: "Steam Heroes war eines der ersten Spiele, die nach den Änderungen am Dashboard veröffentlicht wurden, und ich muss sagen, dass unsere Verkäufe schlimmer als grausam sind - was überraschend ist, da es eines der besseren Spiele ist, die ich auf XBLIG veröffentlicht habe."

Quelle: looki, eurogamer & gamasutra

Gruß
pooly

- Marco175 - 02.11.2010

Mir ist aufgefallen das man keine Videos, also Trailer mehr gucken kann Oo

Und WTF sind Indi Games xDD

- RoJiN - 03.11.2010

Neue Infos u.a. zum AP 2.5 & SSv3!

Es gibt mal wieder ein paar Neuigkeiten zu den neuen Sicherheitschecks, die alle betreffen, die das neue Dashboard installiert haben.

[expander]
Zitat:[+c4eva] just a word of warning on the sed "disc swap" [note x-s: see our x360SED v1.0 news], although this passes the timing check, ap25 also returns data from its check which will be wrong with the wrong disk and will get you banned!

[+c4eva] the trigger for ap25 is still being investigated, but assume a list of titles of some sort or some check, not the xex!
[+c4eva] no ap25 traffic was ever logged with fifa 09

[**] c4eva, it is known yet whether AP2.5 can flag you in an offline state?
[+c4eva] **:yes it can
[+c4eva] console flag

[***] SSv3 just for ap2.5 games or all others?
[+c4eva] ssv3 will be required for any game that activates ap25

[****] c4eva: does that mean old games that dont have ap25, that we burned, as ssv2 are safe?
[+c4eva] ****:yes

[*****] c4eva do you think it is possible that they activate ap25 with a title update on old games?
[+c4eva] possible

[*****] c4eva is it a bad idea playing a retail ap25 game on current fw too ?
[*****] well obv. for new dash
[+c4eva] *****Confusedhould be fine
[/expander]

Das Wichtigste zusammengefasst:
  • Konsolenbesitzer können durch die AP 2.5 Checks sowohl Online als auch Offline(!) geflaggt werden
  • SSv3 wird für jedes Game benötigt, dass die AP 2.5 aktiviert (so wie Fable III)
  • Ältere Games, die die neuen Checks AP2.5 nicht besitzen und als SSv2 gebrannt werden,sind zur Zeit als Save anzusehen. Man kann aber nicht ausschließen, dass MS die AP 2.5 Checks bei diesen Games mit einem (Online)Update nachrüstet.

(Quelle: #FW@EFnet, 360hacks.de & xbox-scene)

- Pooly - 04.11.2010

Microsoft äußert sich zur Kritik der Indie-Entwickler!

Nachdem sich Anfang der Woche einige Entwickler von Indie-Spielen nicht sonderlich begeistert gezeigt haben, hat Microsoft inzwischen reagiert und sich zu den Vorwürfen geäußert. Demnach sollte zu keiner Zeit der Eindruck entstehen, das man die Indie-Games irgendwie einschränken wolle. Man will diese Spiele weiterhin mit voller Kraft unterstützen:

"Der Zweck des Specialty-Shops bestand darin, Zugang zu Marktplätzen zu gewähren, die sich auf eine bestimmte Art von Inhalten konzentrieren und einzigartige Möglichkeiten bieten, diese Inhalte zu durchsuchen. Wir wollten den Xbox Live Indie Games diese volle Marktplatz-Erfahrung geben und waren der Meinung, dass dies der beste Ort dafür ist, gleich neben anderen beliebten Channels wie dem Avatar-Marktplatz."

Quelle: game-newz

Gruß
pooly

- Pooly - 10.11.2010

Indie-Games wieder an alter Stelle!

Nach der Kritik am neuen Dashboard, die seitens der Entwickler von Indie Games geäußert wurden, hat man sich bei Microsoft scheinbar doch Gedanken gemacht. Denn inzwischen hat man reagiert und die Spiele wieder an ihren alten Platz zurückgeschoben.

Ab sofort finden sich also die Indie Games wieder an ihrem alten Platz im Spiele-Marktplatz, direkt neben den XBLA-Titeln, Games on Demand sowie den Demos.

Quelle: eurogamer, areagames & eurogamer

Gruß
pooly

- Tummelwups - 11.11.2010

Hier die neuesten News.



[spoiler]


  1. [2010-10-30 03:11PM] <c4eva> New AP25 checks confirmed on new dash with fable 3, LT+ coming for required drives with SSv3 and anti AP25 included!
  2. [2010-10-30 03:15PM] <c4eva> there are 5 ap25 checks done when xex is launched!
  3. [2010-10-30 03:17PM] <c4eva> samsung doesnt have ap25
  4. [2010-10-30 03:18PM] <c4eva> 360s LT+ will include this now
  5. [2010-10-30 03:19PM] <c4eva> samsung and some old hitachi dont have ap25
  6. [2010-10-30 03:22PM] <c4eva> samsung wont do ap25, it will be skipped (safe)
  7. [2010-10-30 03:24PM] <c4eva> they will detect your drive changing to a samsung! [if you spoof to Samsung]
  8. [2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> dash log:
  9. [2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> AD0000000000000000180000
  10. [2010-10-30 03:31PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
  11. [2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
  12. [2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
  13. [2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
  14. [2010-10-30 03:32PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
  15. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
  16. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
  17. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
  18. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
  19. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
  20. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
  21. [2010-10-30 03:34PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
  22. [2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 55000000000000002A000000
  23. [2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 392077777777777777777777
  24. [2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 5A003900000000002A000000
  25. [2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> 550020000000000014000000
  26. [2010-10-30 03:35PM] <c4eva> thats it
  27. [2010-10-30 03:41PM] <c4eva> confirmation will need to be done on released retail kinect dash!
  28. [2010-10-30 03:43PM] <c4eva> at this point, only new games check ap25!
  29. [2010-10-30 03:44PM] <c4eva> kreon=fail!
  32. [2010-11-01 04:11PM] <c4eva> ap2.5 already defeated, backup fable 3 running fine on beta dash! more data required for analysis!
  33. [2010-11-01 04:12PM] <*********> C4 are you planning on releasing the new LT+ for the old consoles? ie. not slim?
  34. [2010-11-01 04:12PM] <c4eva> *********:yes
  35. [2010-11-01 04:14PM] <******> c4eva, is it confirmed that current FW and older games will be safe in the new dash?
  36. [2010-11-01 04:15PM] <c4eva> ******:unknown at present!
  37. [2010-11-01 05:11PM] <c4eva> very good here, dash out?
  38. [2010-11-01 05:11PM] <c4eva> version please?
  39. [2010-11-01 05:13PM] <c4eva> so it begins,dash version please?
  40. [2010-11-01 05:13PM] <*****> c4 2.0.12611.0
  41. [2010-11-01 05:14PM] <c4eva> very good, thx, same version im already working with!
  42. [2010-11-01 05:15PM] <c4eva> ok, logs will be done soon for analysis!
  43. [2010-11-01 05:26PM] <c4eva> i will be analysing live and ap25 with new dash, so will know more soon!
  44. [2010-11-01 05:27PM] <******> C4 are you still working on hitas? Will they eventually be released =)?
  45. [2010-11-01 05:31PM] <c4eva> more soon!
  46. [2010-11-01 05:31PM] <******> C4eva: seen my question?
  47. [2010-11-01 05:31PM] <*****> c4 will lt+ possibly come out this year?
  48. [2010-11-01 05:32PM] <c4eva> no
  49. [2010-11-01 05:33PM] <*******> c4eva so there will be a LT+ for lite-on and benq drives
  50. [2010-11-01 05:33PM] <c4eva> yes
  51. [2010-11-01 05:36PM] <c4eva> ******:was working on it , not for a while now!
  52. [2010-11-01 07:02PM] <c4eva> all looking good so far!
  53. [2010-11-01 07:09PM] <c4eva> ok, have logged the update process, analysing!
  54. [2010-11-01 07:06PM] <c4eva> please wait, i am stepto my toilet for a break!
  55. [2010-11-01 07:09PM] <c4eva> ok, have logged the update process, analysing!
  56. [2010-11-01 08:33PM] <c4eva> logged entire update process, no vendor packets, only standard inquiry and key exchange, so update process safe!
  57. [2010-11-01 08:37PM] <c4eva> fable 3 not safe! ap2.5 active for that title with new dash!
  58. [2010-11-01 08:37PM] <******> heya -- if you're around, can I ask you for clarification on something?
  59. [2010-11-01 08:38PM] <c4eva> yep
  60. [2010-11-01 08:38PM] <******> people weren't sure if your "no" was in response to seeing Soul's question, or to the new fw being out this year
  61. [2010-11-01 08:38PM] <******> ;[2010-11-01 05:31PM] <******> C4eva: seen my question?
  62. [2010-11-01 08:38PM] <******> ;[2010-11-01 05:31PM] <*****> c4 will lt+ possibly come out this year?
  63. [2010-11-01 08:38PM] <******> ;[2010-11-01 05:32PM] <c4eva> no
  64. [2010-11-01 08:40PM] <c4eva> that was to ******, no *****
  65. [2010-11-01 08:40PM] <c4eva> not
  66. [2010-11-01 08:41PM] <c4eva> as soon as we have enough data on ap25 then there will be something
  67. [2010-11-01 08:47PM] <c4eva> testing more game titles soon for ap25!
  68. [2010-11-01 08:51PM] <c4eva> still analysing fable 3 with live, lots of data coming in, more soon!
  71. [2010-11-03 09:58AM] <c4eva> just a word of waring on the sed "disc swap", although this passes the timing check, ap25 also returns data from its check which will be wrong with the wrong disk and will get you banned!
  72. [2010-11-03 10:02AM] <c4eva> the trigger for ap25 is still being investigated, but assume a list of titles of some sort or some check, not the xex!
  73. [2010-11-03 10:04AM] <c4eva> no ap25 traffic was ever logged with fifa 09
  74. [2010-11-03 10:08AM] <*********> c4eva, it is known yet whether AP2.5 can flag you in an offline state?
  75. [2010-11-03 10:09AM] <c4eva> *********:yes it can
  76. [2010-11-03 10:10AM] <c4eva> console flag
  77. [2010-11-03 10:13AM] <c4eva> ssv3 will be required for any game that activates ap25
  78. [2010-11-03 10:13AM] <*****> c4eva: does that mean old games that dont have ap25, that we burned, as ssv2 are safe?
  79. [2010-11-03 10:14AM] <c4eva> *****:yes
  80. [2010-11-03 10:16AM] <******> c4eva do you think it is possible that they activate ap25 with a title update on old games?
  81. [2010-11-03 10:16AM] <c4eva> possible
  82. [2010-11-03 10:23AM] <c4eva> slim will come with lt+
  85. [2010-11-10 04:16] <******> how's the ps3 blue-ray firmware comming along?
  86. [2010-11-10 04:17] <c4eva> ******:will look at that when finished here, got sidetracked!
  87. [2010-11-10 04:17] <*********> c4eva have ms tried to shaft us big time this time with ap 2.5?? titally new f/w??
  88. [2010-11-10 04:19] <c4eva> *********:no
  89. [2010-11-10 04:22] <*********> c4eva have you any news on lt+ for us today?
  90. [2010-11-10 04:24] <c4eva> host supplied checks was always the holy grail for them as they know we control the fw and cant see
  91. [2010-11-10 04:26] <*********> C4, exactly how many new checks are involved in the new AP2.5?
  92. [2010-11-10 04:27] <*********> and what sorts of things are they checking?
  93. [2010-11-10 04:27] <c4eva> 13 unique ones so far!
  94. [2010-11-10 04:28] <*********> so you think there could be more than 13... :-|
  95. [2010-11-10 04:30] <c4eva> *****:yes, i would think so, too easy to overcome otherwise!
  96. [2010-11-10 04:32] <********> c4eva can FW+ detect unknown checks?
  97. [2010-11-10 04:32] <c4eva> there are other checks just for slim, so more work for that one!
  98. [2010-11-10 04:32] <******> C4eva, would it be possible to for Microsoft to run ap2.5 checks remotely at anytime?
  99. [2010-11-10 04:33] <c4eva> lt+ will cater for any ap2.5 challenge!
  100. [2010-11-10 04:37] <******> C4eva, out of the slims how many fw versions are there and how many look positive to create CFW's currently?
  101. [2010-11-10 04:41] <c4eva> slim, 2 fw versions so far, they went to great lengths to hide drive key in 0225!no matter! Smile
  102. [2010-11-10 04:38] <c4eva> lt+ eta - when its done and tested with more titles!
  103. [2010-11-10 04:39] <c4eva> no ap2.5 checks seen on older games so far, only fable 3, testing the water with that title!
  104. [2010-11-10 04:48] <********> c4eva, any info in you collaboration with demonhades on ps3 fw
  105. [2010-11-10 04:48] <c4eva> ps3 fw comes next after all this!
  106. [2010-11-10 04:49] <******> will the ps3 fw do the exact same thing as the xbox fw? right now there is already homebrew out to run games off hard drive
  107. [2010-11-10 04:51] <c4eva> ****:yes you cant play on psn with jailbreak Smile
  108. [2010-11-10 04:55] <*******> C4eva can you please verify one thing, is the only relatively unsafe rip Fable, or have you spotted any other newer releases
  109. [2010-11-10 04:56] <c4eva> only fable so far but thats not to say a new title might have ap2.5!
  110. [2010-11-10 05:05] <c4eva> first benq and fat liteons, then comes slim!
  111. [2010-11-10 05:06] <c4eva> further progress has been made, all good so far!
  1. [/spoiler]


- depART.ed - 11.11.2010

Na dann soll Microsoft ihn mal "helfen" in dem endlich mehr Spiele mit AP2.5 rauskommen Big Grin. Dann kann er auch schon mehr testen und somit schneller releasen xD

- rain - 13.11.2010

*UPDATE* und es geht weiter bei c4eva

Quelle: irc #fw channel


[spoiler]#
[2010-11-13 03:33PM] <*****> is it possible to spoof our current drives to appear as samsung drives and bypass ap25
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[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <c4eva> *****:osig is checked as part of ap25
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[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <********> I spoofed 4 o 5 Slims to diferent drives, and only 2 times it don't works with Kinect (Play DVD) However, other slims read all (unless Fable 3 xD)
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[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <c4eva> ********:new dash at some point checks slim drive fw, once it has spoof will cease to work
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[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <*****> c4eva will LT+ firmware be available to hitachi v79 drives?
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[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe
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[2010-11-13 03:38PM] <******> C4eva have u tested AC brotherhood?
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[2010-11-13 03:39PM] <c4eva> yes, i have ac:b, all is good!
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[2010-11-13 03:44PM] <c4eva> lt+ testing begins this weekend, not long now!
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[2010-11-13 06:24PM] <******> unless u have a hitatchi drive or a sammy, but sammys seem to be hit and miss, works for some and not for others
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[2010-11-13 06:25PM] <c4eva> ******:ap25 is checking osig
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[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
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[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
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[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
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[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!
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[2010-11-13 06:37PM] <*******> I read somewhere that this ap 2.5 can be different for each game ... so every new game might not work the same way as the previous one and may need a new fw update?
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[2010-11-13 06:38PM] <c4eva> fw will be fine!
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[2010-11-13 06:39PM] <******> it'll work for any AP2.5 challenge he said
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2010-11-13 08:11PM] <*****> c4eva fable3 and asasin have same ap25 checks ?
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[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> ap25 checks are game specific
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[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <*********> c4eva do u know why samsung does not have ap2.5 >
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[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> because it doesnt have the code for it Smile
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[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> c4eva, AP2.5 - thats a name you came up with or does it show in the dash binary somehow ?
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[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> that's what the specification is actually called, ******
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[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <*********> c4eva, i suppose we will need new software/hardware aswell, to dump the new sectors and inject them in iso ?
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[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <******> ******, specification that came from MS to game developers ?
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[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> New 0800 and xbc would be liky
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[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> Likely
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[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <c4eva> yes
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[2010-11-13 08:16PM] <****> c4eva, so if ap2.5 is game specific. Could ms implement new checks with an update and render the new drive FW useless again ?
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[2010-11-13 08:18PM] <c4eva> ****:fw will be fine
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[2010-11-13 08:19PM] <*******> c4eva original slim now can be updated to new firmware and after that it can be LT+ flashed with no problem?
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[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <*********> how do you dump and test ap25 games for now? is it a secre? Smile
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[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *******:yes
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[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *********:yes
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[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*********> <+c4eva> thanks for all your hard work man, we love you. Maybe consider putting out a non-LIVE version of the FW for those that dont care about LIVE. It would have to be easier on ou.
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[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*****> C4s always been committed to stealth
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[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> And im
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[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> Sure he is busy enough
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[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <c4eva> ap25, live or no live, doesnt matter
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[2010-11-13 08:35PM] <*********> my fable 3 doesnt show AP25 in ABGX???
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[2010-11-13 08:36PM] <******> *********: Fable III doesn't have that flag
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[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <c4eva> with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
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[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <******> yeah, so that becomes an unreliable method to determine
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[2010-11-14 04:01PM] <c4eva> testing code, so far so good!
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[2010-11-14 04:08PM] <******> is black ops as safe as any other game before the dash update?
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[2010-11-14 04:09PM] <c4eva> ******:yes
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[2010-11-14 04:19PM] <***> for slim what kind of real time checks are we talking about?
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[2010-11-14 04:19PM] <c4eva> ***:realtime fw check,realtime ram check!
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[2010-11-14 04:25PM] <c4eva> they are checking for our code/data in drive!
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[2010-11-14 XX:XXXX] <*********> c4 can we expect lt+ this side of christmas?
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[2010-11-14 XX:XXXX] <c4eva> *********:yes[/spoiler]